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Jamie Dupree

Cap and Trade-O-Rama

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Jamie Dupree
@ July 5, 2009 12:42 PM
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The Cap and Trade battle heats up this week as the Congress returns to work, with the focus now squarely on the Senate and what it does with the legislation.

Tuesday the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee begins hearings on the issue. Committee Chair Sen. Barbara Boxer has said she wants the panel to start cobbling together a bill the week of July 27.

I detailed a number of things in my blog last week about the details of the House-passed Cap and Trade bill, like the payments to low income Americans to help offset expected higher energy costs caused by the bill.

That provision and a few other things seem to have made somewhat of an impact, because there was Rush Limbaugh citing me by name on his show last Friday.

(Note to Rush: Thanks for the shout out. But I'm not a blogger. I'm a reporter covering Congress who also happens to blog about the subjects that I cover.)

Since I only have a research staff of one - just me - I would urge you (my readers) to spend a little time looking at the bill to see if you can find something interesting. You might find something that I haven't seen yet.

If you want to download the bill to look for yourself, then here is your link: http://is.gd/1omP8

Right click on it to save the file on your computer. I will warn you, sometimes it takes a long time to load, and seems like it doesn't work at all.

Here is the full link: http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h2454eh.txt.pdf

As for today's extra details, I thought I would look at the "Tree Planting" provisions in this bill.

Yes, the bill would spend "such sums" as may be necessary to fund tree planting programs, to provide shade (less power needed for air conditioning in the summer), wind protection during fall and winter, as well as have the trees gobble up carbon dioxide in the air.

Starting on page 393 of the bill, almost 14 pages of technical mumbo-jumbo are needed to detail the plans for tree planting.

For example, the feds will pay up to 50% of tree planting projects.

Power companies would also be given no less than 30 percent of the money in this section to help establish or continue tree-planting programs.

And there is great government-ese like this:

"The program shall use the best available science to create tree siting guidelines which dictate where the optimum tree species are best planted in locations that achieve maximum reductions in consumer energy demand while causing the least disruption to public infrastructure, considering overhead and underground facilities," it says on page 398.

On page 402, the bill talks about local "Technical Advisory Committees," which would help determine what trees should be used in tree-planting programs.

(You will be happy to know that you don't get paid for serving on one of those committees.)

The committees would be composed of:
*1-4 people representing the power industry
*1-4 members of the local tree-planting organizations
* up to 3 people from local nonprofit conservation or environmental organizations
* up to two people from local housing groups
* 1-3 from local governments
* up to one local government official dealing with roads
* up to 3 from the nursery and landscaping industry
* up to 3 from research or academia involving natural resources and energy management.

I'm just tired from writing all of that down.

And like I said earlier, tree planting programs seem to have a blank check in this bill. I mean, how much could that cost?

Have you read any of the Cap and Trade the bill yet? Why not?



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  • Reply to: Emissions
    Actually, in the bill it says that nothing can be added to the Class II list of substances. Then again, methane is already on the list. Oh, wait, further research shows this is incorrect. A petition can be made and the EPA will make the determination within 2 years if it should be on the list using carbon dioxide as the baseline and the new gas is worse. Now get this: Part B, Section 711, Subsection C, Paragraph 7 (pg 703) reads: GROUNDS FOR DENIAL.—The Administrator may not deny a petition under this subsection solely on the basis of inadequate Environmental Protection Agency resources or time for review.

    Wow, environmentalists would never flood the system with petitions in an attempt to overwhelm it so that more things can be added. No, the system is never used as a weapon against industry, ever, right?
  • Emissions
    According to most in congress...any emission can be regulated by the EPA. That means flatulance too. Dont worry they will find a way to tax that.
  • christmas lights
    I see they are making an exception for Christmas lights, theme park lights etc.

    So we can still have a tacky light display every Dec if we can afford the power bill! Hooray!!
  • Ice Breakers
    Included in "Cap and Trade" is $86 million for a new ice breaker. Why do we need a new ice breaker if global warming is going to melt all the ice???? Duuuuhhhh!!!
  • Carbon Sequestration
    Section 339, page 1025, Within 1 year the EPA must give a report on the best methods for doing this. A quick Wiki look gives several options:
    1. Ocean iron fertilization - This technique is controversial due to difficulties of predicting its effect on the marine ecosystem, and the potential for side effects or large deviations
    2. Ocean urea fertilisation - (Don't fish already do this?) fertilize the ocean with urea to encourage phytoplankton growth.
    3. Forestry - Reforestation, but it doesn't stop there. It is essential to ensure that the carbon does not return to the atmosphere from burning or rotting when the trees die. To this end, it would be important to either manage such forests in perpetuity
    4. Agriculture - there are a few subcategories, but lets look at farmers.
    - Using cover crops such as grasses and weeds as temporary cover between agricultural crops
    - Concentrate livestock in small paddocks for short periods (days) so they graze lightly but evenly (no more free range?)
    - Covering bare paddocks with hay or dead vegetation. This protects soil from the sun and allows the soil to hold more water and be more attractive to carbon-capturing microbes. (I can see regulations set forth that requires farmers to have no bare patches of land.)

    Then there are a lot of physical and chemical storage choices. Wouldn't it be interesting that all of this actually made a dent in the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere? Guess what would happen? Suffocation of plant life.

    Oh, and yes, payments go into the STRATOSPHERIC OZONE AND CLIMATE PROTECTION FUND that can be used for multilateral (foreign country) payments that the US enters into including already any amendment to the Montreal Protocol on Substances That Deplete the Ozone Layer.

    It would be interesting when a business decides to sue based on making someone prove "Global Warming" which is mentioned throughout the report.
  • Cap this
    This 'bill' is ridiculous and is going to cost us in more ways than one.

    I sure hope I can charge up my battery on my eletric car and not cause a black out!
  • Endorsed by Limbergermeister meisterberger
    It's official Jamies one of the cons biased media.
  • Bad Tree!?
    Hope these trees never die....otherwise these "good" trees become "bad" trees as they decay and release carbon!
  • Tree Plantings
    A 3" caliper tree about 12-14 feet tall(standard nursery planting size) will run (planted) between 700 and 1200 dollars. I guess, just do the math. Elms, Oaks, etc should be planted no closer than 25 feet apart, so all you are limited to is your imagination our the size of a property for the number of trees planted.
  • Trees and CO2
    Strangely enough, trees are considered 'carbon neutral', and don't actually give off any greenhouse gasses, since they absorbed those gasses during their lifetime.

    Government science - it boggles the mind, doesn't it?
  • Tree Planting Boards
    I wonder what will happen when the tree planting boards decide tree are needed, but the people who own the land, will have to take care of the trees, and, in fact, might lose the use of the property or scenic views, don't want them. I fully except that We, the People, will be told we no longer have the righ to control our property
  • Hey Jamie, I was wondering how many bills have been passed by the House, and then never make it through the Senate?
  • Cap n Trade
    Jamie, you forgot another 'use' for planting trees. We will need to use the wood for heat and cooking! How much carbon will that ADD to the atmosphere?
  • WaterSense
    Check out the appropriations section for the WaterSense program. In short the WaterSense program encourages water efficiency through the use of a special label on consumer products (I guess like the EnergyStar label).

    Section 215 Page 490:
    "APPROPRIATIONS.—There
    are authorized to be appropriated $7,500,000 for fiscal year 2010, $10,000,000 for fiscal year 2011, $20,000,000 for fiscal year 2012, and $50,000,000 for fiscal year 2013 and each year thereafter, adjusted for inflation, to carry out this section."

    Wow. $90,000,000 in the next 4 years to put stickers on products so we can know which products are 20% more efficient? Seems like manufacturers could do that on their own.
  • cap and trade
    doese the president know what is in the bill?
  • International Deforestation
    Jamie, thanks for encouraging us to actually read this monstrosity. I found it interesting that, in section 754, the bill authorizes the government to enter into agreements with developing countries to reduce their deforestation. I couldn't find where it promises actual monetary support, but I would bet some money would be changing hands. I guess we can't stop at planting more trees ourselves, we have to encourage other countries not to chop their own trees down.
  • we cap they spend
    Thanks for all you do, Jamie. read pg 1223, it gives money to 'global environment facilities' to study/reduce emissions, (in other words, they will be sendong our [borrowed] money overseas). CALL YOUR SENATORS MONDAY, VOTE NO
  • you cap, they spend
    THANK YOU Jamie. Keep it up read pg 1223, it gives money to 'global environment facilities' to study/reduce emissions, in other works OUR (borrowed) money going overseas. CALL YOUR SENATORS MONDAY, VOTE NO
  • link to bill did not work
    The link to bill did not work. You have made it if Rush mentioned you by name...Yeah!!
  • Thank You
    Thank you Jamie...working on Sunday's too!!
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