Posted 8:25am 9/11/08
(WSB Radio) Illegal immigrants are costing Gwinnett County a lot of money. Not in handouts, but in hold-ups.
A grand jury panel says illegals appear to be committing "a disproportionate number" of crimes in the county, and county commissioners need to address it.
In a presentments to be published today, the panel says ""It is the opinion of this grand jury that until the actual impact of illegal immigration is accurately known, rational business decisions to reduce this impact cannot be made."
The panel is asking county leaders to implement programs to reach out to the county's immigrant population, and to teach them the laws of this country.
"This way, law-abiding immigrants may fully understand and participate in the community," the document reads.
What others are saying
- Iegal immigration is wrongeven though I have never liked the term parasites for illegal aliens, upon examination, it is however, though not the most polite way of characterizing them, true. It is a relationship where hospitals go bust, social services paid into by Americans for Americans, go broke, it has resulted in the stolen I.D.'s with much trouble for citizens, it has resulted in higher crime, and it has and is resulting in cultural and social upheaval. The United States is not Mexico, or any other nation. It is the United States. Our politicians who enable illegal immigration are 1) in violation of their oaths of office, and 2)In violation of existing U.S. Immigration law. They are a law unto themselves, and why this isn't on the radar screen of the American citizenry , puzzles me. It is serious crimianl behavior of those we have elected and trust to do our will and work for our best interests.
- ok so lets spend more of our money on illegals? no! In there countries if they break the law some get their hands cut or spend the rest of their lives in jail.They know the laws there they are the same here in America! They just knw that we are more compassionate with our systems.
- illegal immigrationteach illegal invaders the laws of our country! the panel is asking county leaders to implement programs to reach out to the county's illegal immigration population? spend our tax dollars to reach out to foreign criminal invaders? this is a solution to a crisis thats over taking every town city and states resources to cover the cost of millions and millions of illegal invaders? secure border! deportion! this is not the right answer to a very big problem facing american tax paying citizens? victims of foreign invaders flooding our own country! panel say's teach them our laws? what! please it's against the law to rob someone at gun point! we do not rape american citizens it's against the law! enforce they just will not do but spend money for this type of REACH out to foreign invaders to teach our countrys laws PLEASE!!!! HELPLESS VICTIMS IS WHAT THIS GOVERMENT IS MAKING AMERICAN CITIZENS BECOME. no security no protection just victims of people who if they were not here are fellow country men would be period. open house USA the holiday inn from around the world. have your baby's on the tax paying citizens expense, social service on the house! protection from deportion! give our social security away to mexican illegal citizen and everyone else thats ILLEGAL and breaking our laws? they are spitting on us america spitting on us all. replace the veteran politician in your state hopefully this will change washington and there politicial correct garbage on us all! INDEPENDENT for truth justice and american way period AMEN. CHUCK BALWIN looks very good right NOW!
- If you're a DemocratIt's okay, though---they're just trying to feed their families, right?
- Protect yourselvesBuy a gun and lot's of ammo. The "authorities" are not going to protect you from these criminals. If you're looking for a helping hand, your've got one at the end of each arm, use them. Get a gun carry permit if your state allows it, if not pack un-loaded heat in your car at all times with the ammo at close quarters. It could save your life someday. Better judged by 12 than carried by 6.
- Illegals fall back on crimeDid I hear this right? The Panel wants teach the foreignors about our Laws after they start stealing and holding up people because there are no jobs? How about rounding all the foreignors up along with the Panel and shipping them all out of the country? Good Ridence.
- THERE WILL BE NO AMNESTY!!!OUR ACCEPTABLE IMMIGRATION REFORM
#1. Secure the Border!!!
#2. Mandate E-Verify for ALL Employees!!!
#3. Mandate E-Verify for ANY Benefit!!!
#4. Stop the Underground Economy!!!
#5. End Birthright Citizenship for Illegals!!!
......and make it retroactive!!!
#6. End Chain Migration!!!
#7. Make English our Official Language!!!
#8. Cut Off Federal Funds to Sanctuary Cities!!
NOTHING MORE!!! NOTHING LESS!!! - Put your money where your mouth is!Can you say mass riots on the way! Our government is p!ssing down our backs and telling us it's raining. You want to stop this madness? Your dollar has more power than your vote. Let the businesses and our officials know that if they want to hire illegal labor they will not receive your dollars. A one to two month economic boycott (where only essentials like food and medicine are bought) would speak volumes to them in a language they understand.
- Right on!Well said, Diamond Mair! Intelligent folks don't hold anything against immigrants as long as they come here legally. The illegals are a huge problem, though. They need to leave and come back legally.
- Nip it!Here's an easy solution- build a fence to stop the flow of illegal immigration, then allow people to enter the country after they meet the established requirements (not criminals, speak the language, pay taxes, etc..)
This shadow society of illegals is causing big problems on many fronts. We need to be big boys and girls and face the reality of the situation. - Illegal immigrationMessrs. Tabarrok & Theroux;
May I suggest you avail yourselves of one of the freedoms of this nation, and hie yourselves to the border - Laredo, TX would be a good starting place. Next, visit Houston, TX, where approximately TWENTY-FIVE PER CENT of the population of 4,000,000 is illegal.
Go watch the 'day laborers' awaiting hire, while they sleep, urinate, defecate wherever/whenever they are so moved.
Go visit the shantytowns they create in what WERE, not too long ago, desirable neighborhoods. Don't forget to ask about quinceneras - girls are considered "of age" at 15, so you MIGHT just find yourselves with young girlfriends.
Visit the local labor & delivery departments of ALL the hospitals - easily 50% of ALL births are to illegals - GOTTA have those anchor babies ASAP!!
Check out Texas' list of child predators, 'regular' rapists & murderers - the vast majority have high-tailed it back over the border.
My great-grandparents emigrated here from what was then Czechoslovakia - they came HERE LEGALLY, through Ellis Island. They were burned out 3 times by the KKK for being "foreigners & Catholic" - do NOT try to convince me that the majority of illegals are here for the betterment of the U.S.A. - they're here ONLY because Americans are generous to a fault. They would do far better to stay "home" wherever that may be, and improve conditions THERE. - Bring back the Melting PotRemember the old School House Rock song about America being the big Melting Pot? That's how it should be. Many of us are decendants of immigrants who set out, risking their lives at times to have the proud distinction of calling themselves Americans, but the motives are different with these people. The parasites who want to live in America and enjoy all of the benefits without actually becoming Americans have formed a disgusting film on the top of the Pot and they need to be skimmed.
- This panels on crackUntil the pandering politians grow a pare and start acting in favor of their country instead of trying to make it easier for illegals to vote, we're stuck with idiotic panels like this. Jesus - here's an idea deport them to a place so far away they can never make it back here.
- IllegalsRight. How much money will this "reaching out to this illegal immigrant community" cost the tax payers??? When is this invasion of MY rights going to stop? Government keeps trying to accommodate these law breakers using my money.
- teach them the laws?oh come on ! do you really need to teach anyone over the age of 3 that if something doesn't belong to you that you do not take it?
give me a break!!!!!!!!! enforce the immigration laws, start checking immigration status for all traffic stops, school registrations, job applications and enforce the current laws . deport them. - Open LetterPeople from around the world are drawn to America for its promise of freedom and opportunity. That promise has been fulfilled for the tens of millions of immigrants who came here in the twentieth century.
Throughout our history as an immigrant nation, those who were already here have worried about the impact of newcomers. Yet, over time, immigrants have become part of a richer America, richer both economically and culturally. The current debate over immigration is a healthy part of a democratic society, but as economists and other social scientists we are concerned that some of the fundamental economics of immigration are too often obscured by misguided commentary.
Overall, immigration has been a net gain for American citizens, though a modest one in proportion to the size of our 13 trillion-dollar economy.
Immigrants do not take American jobs. The American economy can create as many jobs as there are workers willing to work so long as labor markets remain free, flexible and open to all workers on an equal basis.
In recent decades, immigration of low-skilled workers may have lowered the wages of domestic low-skilled workers, but the effect is likely to have been small, with estimates of wage reductions for high-school dropouts ranging from eight percent to as little as zero percent.
While a small percentage of native-born Americans may be harmed by immigration, vastly more Americans benefit from the contributions that immigrants make to our economy, including lower consumer prices. As with trade in goods and services, the gains from immigration outweigh the losses. The effect of all immigration on low-skilled workers is very likely positive as many immigrants bring skills, capital and entrepreneurship to the American economy.
Legitimate concerns about the impact of immigration on the poorest Americans should not be addressed by penalizing even poorer immigrants. Instead, we should promote policies, such as improving our education system, that enable Americans to be more productive with high-wage skills.
We must not forget that the gains to immigrants coming to the United States are immense. Immigration is the greatest anti-poverty program ever devised. The American dream is a reality for many immigrants who not only increase their own living standards but who also send billions of dollars of their money back to their families in their home countriesa form of truly effective foreign aid.
America is a generous and open country and these qualities make America a beacon to the world. We should not let exaggerated fears dim that beacon.
Alexander Tabarrok, David J. Theroux - illegal parasitesthey are not immigrants they are parasites most pay no taxes here but are happy to flood our schools and emergency rooms don't pay for there licenses rob cheat and steal from the rest of us. I am in a construction trade and have seen the parasites take over trade after trade. Not because they work harder they don't pay taxes so they work cheaper. I have worked on a local school where all! the masons were illegal> I for one am sick of it.
PS any one want to give me odds on the guy that killed the newly weds in tx was illegal also? - IllegalsCalling this invading mob "illegal immigrants" is like calling a drug pusher an unlicensed pharmacist.
- What?This way, law-abiding immigrants may fully understand and participate in the community? How can someone who is in this country illegaly be called law-abiding. They are breaking the law just by being here! They don't want to participate in the community eather. That's why they don't learn English, only live and hangout with eachother, and continue to listen to polka music.
- immigrant c rimeThrough political correctness America is committing suicide while our spineless politicians terrified of being called racists and bigots are sitting on their butts in total paralysis while the country slides into the sewer.God have mercy on us.
- Illegal immigrantsWhat a bunch of bed wetters! Bet their all for granting amnesty as well. These people know what's illegal. Enforce our laws and send them back to their own countries and then we won't need a panel to come with with such Bull s..t. Wonder if this loony panel would change their minds if it was their family to fall victom to these people?
- Illegal immigrantsWell, Duh! Of course they're responsible for a disproportionate number of crimes - that's why they come to this country in the first place, and treat it like one big piggy-bank. Companies need to be fined big-time and illegals need to be shipped back to Mexico post-haste whenever they're booked for anything. Enough is enough!
- Panel: Immigrant Crime UpI love how the panel is asking the county leadrer to teach illegal immigrants right from wrong. That is retarded. These people know the diffrence between what's right and what's wrong.
"Oh you mean ruffing up someone to carjack them or rob them is wrong? I did not know that..." More like "NO HABLA INGLéS!!!"
Someone needs to put a foot up these people's asses on the panel... - immigrantsAre you kidding me that's what you want our leaders to do is to teach them laws.Come on they know the laws they know stealing, driving with no license, driving drunk, being here illegal, gangs are all big NO's No's. Don't you think over in Mexico and every where elese the basic laws are pretty much the same. If they commit a crime send the back where they came from.
- We need to start rounding them up and sending them back.
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